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#8056
Main Message Board / Re: New owner
January 13, 2006, 12:20:04 PM
Welcome

With your vintage boat, I heartily recommend that you read:  http://c34.org/bbs/index.php?topic=2629.0.  It's a Guide to Technical Resources on our website.

It will be of immense help to you in your learning curve.

All the best, please let us know if there is anything we can do.  Please join the C34 International Association.  Email me at mraquaq@aol.com at anytime if you have any questions.
#8057
Main Message Board / Re: Dorade vents Mark II
January 10, 2006, 07:36:10 PM
Willie

Thinking?  It's more like "what were they thinking?"

The Mark II brochure claims a lower profile and "sleek" lines.  See: http://www.c34.org/brochures.html, from the Original C34 Homepage.

With solid triple hatch boards on the Mark II, compared to the two on the Mark I, one of which has slits, it seems that passive ventilation is measurably reduced on the Mark IIs.

Of course, Mark II owners do NOT have the problem of replacing the dorade vents (see Mainsheet Tech Notes for a replacement project I documented http://www.c34.org/mainsheet/pdf/Aug_2005.pdf), or of trying to keep them clean, to say nothing about having the mainsheet get caught up on them... 

It's a boat, there are compromises.

[If you are not yet a C34IA member and the link above doesn't work for you without a password, you can join the Association and obtain access to all of the C34 Tech Notes from 1987 via "Tech Notes Online", which are PDF versions of ALL the C34 Tech Notes, pretty much up to date.  The Tech Notes Index, {2005 is: http://www.c34.org/tech-notes-index/tech-notes-index-2005.htm, and the whole Index is: http://www.c34.org/techindex_top.htm) is available to everyone, so you can see the topics that have been covered over the past 20 years.]

Mark II owners can chime in on what works for them for ventilation.
#8060
Main Message Board / Salon Table Modifications
January 06, 2006, 10:02:41 AM
There have been many discussions about the table mods over the years.

In fact, Dave Commando's boat #55 Kindred Spirit's PO was one of the first to post!

Here are two appropriate links:

http://www.c34.org/projects/projects-table-modification.html 

http://www.c34.org/projects/kindred-spirit/coffee.html

These links go "through" this: http://www.c34.org/projects/projects.html

That's one of the technical resources I mentioned in my "Guide" post recently.  Very handy and useful information in the Projects and FAQ sections.

The "Guide" Post is:  http://c34.org/bbs/index.php?topic=2629.0
#8061
It has also occurred to me that

The Original Homepage of your Association is:  www.c34.org

It still exists.  It has a tremendous amount of information, especially for the older boats.  This Message Board part of the Forum is very useful for both newer and older boats and is a daily and searchable source of information in addition to the original homepage.

Please note that there is additional information on this page beyond the technical information noted above, including manuals, brochures, history, etc.  Please review the index at the left side of that C34 homepage.
#8062
Main Message Board / Master ON/OFF Switch
January 04, 2006, 08:04:05 PM
Doug

The Master ON/OFF Switch is just that.  Once you plug into shore power, that's the switch that opens the AC current anything on board that's AC.

Plug in, switch off, no power to outlets or your heater.  Switch on, heater works and so do outlets and anything else connected to AC.

Here's an updated AC manual for our 1986 boat.  The manual was WRONG!!  (You'll probably have to blow it up in your photo shop program, the file size was too big before I re-sampled the image.)

#8063
Main Message Board / Re: Rub rail stainless holder
January 04, 2006, 05:39:21 PM
Ron raises a very good solution.  The standard Catalina rub rail may not be appropriate for the stern lines on your Mark II.  It could look "heavy" and out of place.  You may want to investigate the material used by other manufacturers, like the white transom line used by Hunter.  The white wouldn't be as "obvious" and would maintain the "lines" of the boat.
#8064
Main Message Board / Re: AC & Power questions
January 04, 2006, 05:30:43 PM
Photo 2 below

Reverse Polarity:

There are three A.C. wires: black (hot), white (Neutral) and green (ground).

ON SHORE the neutral and ground are tied together. NEVER on a boat. It's pretty simple.

The AC and DC green grounds are connected on a boat.

Reverse polarity is when the HOT and NEUTRAL are reversed, usually at the dockside by, as Maine Sail has written, Darrryl & his other brother Darryl. It is rarely wrong on a boat unless the PO has snafued his own work.

Reverse polarity is measured between the neutral and ground wire ON THE BOAT with the neon glow lamps with the 25K ohm resistors. However, what they are telling you, regardless of how this is done, is that you have the HOT and NEUTRAL reversed. That's why we recommend that everyone just go down to their ACE hardware store and buy one of those simple plug-in testers. That avoids any confusion about RP. F'rinstance, in our boat we have THREE RP lights, two are indicating NORMAL and means everything is OK. When the third light comes on: PROBLEM!!! Confuses some people. SOME FOLKS ONLY HAVE ONE LIGHT SO WHEN IT COMES ON IT MEANS a PROBLEM.
#8065
Main Message Board / Re: AC & Power questions
January 04, 2006, 05:19:55 PM
Doug

More REVERSE POLARITY. 

I went to the boat today and took these photos.  This is our AC panel.  We have two lights, normal and reverse.  Your panel MAY BE, and probably is[/u], different.  This is an obvious question, but it could be that the "normal" lights are on - I must admit that until I studied boat electrical systems, I was mystified by this.  It means that the neutral (white) wiring and the black (positive?) wiring are reversed.  Without going into detail, it means stuff on AC will work, but it has a potential for harm - please read any electrical book, like Don Casey or Nigel Calder.  If you don't have Calder's book, I highly recommend it.  Could be the best $50 (less probably on ebay) that you'll ever spend on your boat.

I agree with Jeff that you should check the system all the way to the "starting point" at the shorepower inlet.  Because the shorepower inlet is most likely in your port locker, the back of it could have been subject to damage by stuff"" moving around in the locker (don't know what you have in there).  Also check if the blades of your cord are marred, which would indicate that there is some shorting going on there.  A clean contact on all blades is important.

A "Search" on "GFI" and "GFCI" may help, too.
#8066
Main Message Board / Re: Rub rail stainless holder
January 04, 2006, 01:01:27 PM
John

I recommend an "Advanced Search" on "rub rail."  Click on Advanced Search at the top of the message board, then use "match all words" NOT "match any words."  I believe you will find the resources to describe where to obtain your material from earlier posts that will come up from that search.  I do not know of anyone who has added rub rail material at the edge of the transom.  We have a Mark I boat, so do not have that issue.
#8067
Main Message Board / Re: SF Bay sail
January 02, 2006, 08:25:33 PM
A representative photo.  Thanks for your note and a great day together.
#8068
Main Message Board / Re: AC & Power questions
January 02, 2006, 03:43:02 PM
Doug,

REVERSE POLARITY

In addition, do a search on the words "reverse+polarity."  Those topics should answer your question.  The easiest thing to do is to go to a hardware store and buy a reverse polarity indicator (cheaper than WM).  Just plug it in to one of your outlets.
#8069
Main Message Board / Re: AC & Power questions
January 01, 2006, 06:48:36 PM
Doug

Welcome aboard.

This site (The Message Board) has a pretty good search engine.  For some reason, the way the URLs work, I can't post the "results" of searches for you to give you a quick link.

However, please use the search engine for separate searches on the words "charger" and "Redux" and "GFI" or "GFCI" - most of your questions have been discussed.  Start there.  If you need more info, please let us know.

Use the Manual that came with your boat, if you don't have one, download it from ww.c34.org, left side index.  It has a wiring diagram.  Only the first outlet of a chain needs to be a GFI to protect the downstream outlets.  Check your own wiring to confirm.  I put one in th head and one in the V berth.  I could have put one in the nav station, but chose to install the GFIin the head (with an exterior grade cover).  The only outlet NOT GFI-protected on our boat is the nav station.

As far as your electrical "leak" it's impossible to tell without visiting the boat - you have some connection somewhere that is letting current run through.  It's the very first time I've heard  of this condition on a C34.
#8070
Updated January 2007 to Include the New KNOWLEDGEBASE

Updated 2009 to Include the New wiki Section

See posts below for information on the new wiki

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Updated November 2009:

The C34 community is indebted to the late Past Commodore Jon Schneider (#1058 - Atlantic Rose) for the tremendous work involved in his contribution of the new KNOWLEDGEBASE, a complete Index of the C34IA Tech Notes, Projects and FAQs.  It is yet another example of the benefits of C34 IA membership.  It also reflects the continued interest of our members to share their information and to "put back" into their community.

The New KNOWLEDGEBASE is a critically important feature to the C34 Website because it fulfills the requests of many members for an easier and more useful vehicle to search for information.  The "Original Website" search engine was poor compared to the powerful search feature on this Message Board.  While Search engines in general act like indexes in books, this new KNOWLEDGEBASE provides BOTH a Table of Contents AND indexing features.  We are sure that it will add immensely to your enjoyment and ease of use to find information about C34 skipper's experiences and helpful hints.

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In a recent post, Ron Hill noted: "As Stu said - most of the information is already out there.
Might be nice if Santa would bring us some "links" on the Message Board to our other C34 IA sites like "Projects" and "FAQs"."

In response to that request, and since some have recently said that "There's TOO MUCH information" on our website, I have modified some recent posts I have made and offer this as your Guide to clarify and explain how the C34 website is arranged.

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Your sources of technical information on C34s are:

--  Original Webpage FAQs:  http://www.c34.org/faq-pages/faq.html

--  Original Webpage Tech Notes:  http://www.c34.org/techindex_top.htm 

--   The Tech Notes Index on this Message Board is: http://c34.org/bbs/index.php?topic=3096.0   Please note this list includes some non-C34 tech notes, available ONLY in paper copies of the magazine, NOT on the Tech Notes Online

--  Original Webpage Projects:  http://www.c34.org/projects/projects.html

--  This Message Board on the Forum:  http://c34.org/bbs/index.php?board=11.0

--  The NEW JANUARY 2007 KNOWLEDGEBASE Index to the Original Website:  http://c34.org/bbs/index.php?topic=3362.0, which links to: http://www.c34.org/tech-notes-index/technotes-excel.xls


--  The NEW 2009 WIKI Sectionhttp://www.c34.org/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page[/b]

These six specific areas have all of the technical information that has been so graciously shared by C34 owners since 1987, right here on your website.

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Here's the history: The Original Home Page at www.c34ia.org and the associated Projects and FAQs were developed over the years to organize and collect the vast amount of information that had been generated by interested C34 owners about their boats.

The Original Homepage FAQs, particularly, were made by a handful of us who took our own personal time and copied questions and answers from the older email "List" that preceded the Message Board, and made "articles" about the subjects.  They were prepared and edited by these individuals and then emailed to the Associate Webmasters, who then posted them on the website.  As noted to me recently by a Mark II owner, those FAQs are primarily concerned with Mark I boats, although some boats systems remain the same (i.e., HX zincs and electrical systems).  I find that the FAQs are almost essential for new owners with older boats.

The Tech Notes Index was prepared and published on the website in early 1999.  The purpose was to list the contents of the Technical Notes that were originally only published in Mainsheet magazine ever since the C34 section started in the magazine in 1987.  Later, in 2001, your C34 Officers agreed to support the effort required to copy each of those voluminous technical articles and post them on the website as an advantage to our C34 IA membership.  They had previously only been available for additional cost in what were considered to be poor xerox copies.  The Tech Notes Index is available to everyone.  The Tech Notes Online are available ONLINE to only C34 IA members.  The Tech Notes from 1987 to 2001 also come on a FREE CD-ROM when you join the Association. 

This Message Board is relatively "new" compared to the long history of the Original C34 website and is an ongoing resource for technical information in addition to the archived and captured boat technical information at www.c34.org, with it's own Projects, FAQs and Tech Notes. 

With the advent of this searchable Message Board relatively recently, there was no longer a need to do that time consuming work for the FAQs, which is why there are fewer new FAQs on the original homepage.  This Message Board has pretty much replaced the old FAQs, primarily because the Message Board is searchable and eliminates the work required for the preparation of those FAQs.  But most importantly all of the old FAQs still remain available for your use and information.

I continue to urge you all to check out the Original C34 Webpage (www.c34ia.org) Projects, FAQs and Tech Notes Index with the links noted above in addition to this Message Board to become familiar with the incredible wealth of information that has been gathered over the years about our boats, both Mark Is and Mark IIs.  Please note that the "FAQs" on the Original Homepage are BOAT related FAQs, and not "how to use the website" FAQs.

The New KNOWLEDGEBASE will facilitate information research on the Original C34 Website.

Also be aware that you no longer have to prepare and submit Projects and FAQs for the original Website.  Just use the wiki

To submit Tech Notes to the C34 section of the Mainsheet Magazine, prepare your material and submit it to the Technical Editor of the Association.  It will be published and only later will it appear on the website:  first, Mainsheet won't publish previously published material, so it has to get published in the magazine first; second, we used to scan the published text into PDFs for the Tech Notes Online and now post the original articles in full and living color!

(Jan. 2007 update:  We are working to improve the posts to the Tech Notes Online by using the original, color photo, material and intend to have that operational soon in 2007.)

Update June  2009:  Commodore Bob Kuba has been updating the TNOs with the original color photos and unedited original text material from 2006 to the present in addition to the older PDF files.  Take a look at the updated TNOs.


Of course, we continue to look forward to your new questions on this Message Board, which is "THE" place to exchange daily ideas and questions.