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In San Diego, the SDCatA fleet races usually have 4 or more C36 boats and 3 Cat 34 boats. The racing is very close. A couple of the C36s are tall rigs and do better in the light air. In other conditions, the C34s tend to do as well. It's very close racing, both handicap and for line honors. Last year a C34 won the Club overall trophy. If you have enough water, the fin keel is better performing on either boat. This fleet started as a C30 fleet but there is little C30 participation now and it has become an All Catalina Asso.

For entertaining at the dock, the C36 wins easily. It has a better salon and the MkIIs have a great cockpit. My wife doesn't like the C36 companion way stairs ending in the galley and I don't like the head forward but these are minor issues. For sailing or sleeping, I prefer the C34. Just one opinion. Either will put a grin on your face and they are pretty much a toss up on the race course.

Bill

I was surprised to see activity on this old thread I started. I think it's clear that Dave thru bolted the track except for a couple of locations where he could not reach the backside. I also have a Mk I, 1990, and I convinced myself I didn't want to risk having many places where I could not reach and would have to screw into the glass. I have made work a couple of carefully placed padeyes on the deck and use both a cruising and a poled spinnaker. But, I still want a track! Since I first asked the question, I've heard from two people who have added tracks. I think access to each boat may be a little different and some people are just determined to do the impossible. Good luck.
Bill

Bruce,
When I upgraded my traveler, Guido put put rollers instead of cam cleats on the brackets so that I could mount the cleats on the cabin top inside the doger. I would like to have cleats at both positions now since I remove the doger for racing and the forward position is more convinent from the pit. I'll be in Catalina next week for JazzTrax but I'll try to post some pictures when I get back.
Bill Sedgwick
SchatzSea #1031

Correction. San Diego Catalina Association Meeting is the first Wednesday of each month at SGYC.

I would be glad to show you my setup and discuss local sources. Also, please visit our SDCatA meeting at SGYC the 1st tursday at 7 PM each month. We need you for the new C34 fleet. I bought my pole new at Minneys for $295. My first spinaker cost about $600 from National Sail Warehouse. I estimate rigging costs at $300.

Bill Sedgwick
SchatzSea 1031

You will need to remove the period from the previous link. It should be: http://www.nosa.org/05_races-lx.html

Here's a link to the race site: http://www.nosa.org/05_races-lx.html. This was the 58th annual race and is a big event on the west coast. I'd hoped to beat Pywacket but they corrected 8 minutes ahead - and they were the first boat to finish. At least we beat Genuine Risk. We had a great time but I really dislike getting beat by C320s and those darn Maxis - but we'll get back at them soon!

[Pos SAILNO BoatName RaceRating FINISHED CORRECTED YachtClub Type]

Thought this might be of some interest due to the number of Cat34s in PHRF class J. Sorry for the formatting. Couldn't seem to keep the columns. Class J started at 13:10 on 4/22/05 (Friday). No bragging rights for me this year. I've done this for 10 years and this is my 6th race as owner of SchatzSea. Best we have finished is a 3rd in the Cruising Class several years ago. There were 465 entries and 379 finishers. (unofficial numbers). This has been billed as the largest international yacht race.

Pos   SAILNO   BoatName   RaceRating   FINISHED   CORRECTED   YachtClub   Type
19   21598   CAMPAIGN II   144   SAT  16:26:19    22:16:19   BYC   C&C34
92   46717   WIND CATCHER   150   SAT  18:25:00    24:02:30   SBYRC   CAT320
99   77914   JEZEBEL   150   SAT  18:28:16    24:05:46   CRA   RNG33
111   37447   ENDLESS SUMMER   150   SAT  18:33:12    24:10:42   DPYC   RNG33
114   97441   CALLISTO II   141   SAT  18:17:36    24:13:51   SLBYC   CAT34T
118   18119   WOOD AYE   141   SAT  18:21:16    24:17:31   DWYC   MAIR30
135   46690   TOO MUCH FUN!!   141   SAT  18:34:51    24:31:06   VNTYC   CAT34T
165   97990   ARIES   150   SAT  19:24:31    25:02:01   HGYC   ERC32-3
170   56782   MIDNIGHT RUN   150   SAT  19:28:36    25:06:06   KHYC   CAT320
177   46901   SCHATZSEA   150   SAT  19:33:12    25:10:42   SGYC   CAT34
186   7082   MOONGLOMPER   150   SAT  19:50:30    25:28:00   VSC   
201   46696   GOLDEN SKYE   144   SAT  19:51:41    25:41:41   BYC   63'KTH
210   97085   CAMPBELL'S SLOOP   141   SAT  20:06:30    26:02:45   DPYC   CAT34T
249   46226   SILVERFOX   144   SAT  21:32:12    27:22:12   SYCLB   CAT36
307   56297   KIWI MAGIC   150   SUN  01:27:12    31:04:42   DWYC   GLFST41
318   97172   DELPHINE   144   SUN  02:55:50    32:45:50   SLBYC   
400   46385   ADELINE   150   DNF   DNF   CRA   CAT320
407   47200   BOLERO   150   DNF   DNF   SDYC   RNG33

Here's another site with manuals http://www.sailingboatefaki.gr/Engine%20Manuals.htm .

Although this link doesn't answer the M-35B question, it is an interesting history and gives the orgin of the M-35 engine.
http://www3.telus.net/Atomic_4_Eng_Service/History_of_the_Universal_Motor_Company_4.html

Brad,

There are 2 parts to this answer: 1) C34 national class rules and 2)PHRF-SD rules.

C34 class rules prohibits assymetricals and is as follows (http://www.c34.org/rules.html):

4.11.4 SPINNAKER
4.11.4.1 The host fleet may specify or prohibit use of spinnakers.
4.11.4.2 When permitted, the spinnaker shall be a three-cornered sail symmetrical about its
centerline with a maximum girth of 24 feet 4 inches. A handicap may be specified
by the host fleet based on performance data.

San Diego PHRF
(http://www.phrfsandiego.org/PHRFSD2004/ASails2004.htm)is basically the same as PHRF SoCal and states the following:

SAILS Headsail LP shall not exceed 1.55 x J
Symmetrical Spinnaker SL shall not exceed .95 times the square root of (I² + J²)
Symmetrical Spinnaker SMW shall not exceed 1.8 x J
Asymmetrical Spinnaker SLU shall not exceed 1.03 (the 1.15 is only for boats designed for asymmetrical chutes) times the square root of (Ic² + Jc²)
Asymmetrical Spinnaker SF shall not exceed 1.8 x Jc
Asymmetrical Spinnaker ASMG shall not exceed 1.8 x Jc
Asymmetrical Spinnaker ASMG/SF ratio shall be equal to or greater than 0.75
POLES Spinnaker pole shall not exceed 100% of J. The parameters for Spinnaker Pole measurement are the same as SPL (Appendex A, Section 1.0).
Extended “bow pole” (BPL) shall not exceed original manufacturer’s designed length.
Whisker pole maximum length shall not exceed 1.4 x J.
Boats racing in a designated Non-Spinnaker race may use a whisker pole. Adjustable length whisker poles shall have a 2-inch contrasting band indicating maximum allowable length. When in normal use, these poles shall not be extended beyond their maximum allowable length, and shall be attached to any point on the mast.

In summary:

If you have a standard rig C34 then the I = 44, J = 13.5 and SL = 43.72(max)and SMW = 24.3(max)

You can carry both a symetrical and a assymetical in SoCal but the asso must be measured using the Jc dimensions and must be on the certificate. In addition, make the SMW 24.3 to be safe.

I'm on the PHRF San Diego board so if I can help, feel free to contact me. Hope this helps.

George Sedgwick
SGYC Measurer

Jeff & Cindy,

My 1990 #1031 has a drain hole at the stanchion so it can't have water on the deck unless the hole is plugged. The 1996 doesn't have the drain hole. I suspect that your standing water is farther aft of the stanchion.

Bill Sedgwick

The 1996 C34 Mk2 I'm looking at doesn't have air vents in the cabin like the Mk 1. Is this a problem and have vents been added to other Mk2s either by owners or the factory?

I have 2 Vetus vents in the salon and one in the aft cabin of my 1990. I think this was standard for 1990.

Thanks,
Bill

Jim,

Is this for the rolled pin connecting the engaging lever to the shaft on the ecentric pinch roller?

Bob,
I replaced my main and one jib halyard in the last 12 months because of new sails and streach in both old halyards. I first bought Stayset-X for the main. It is stiff and the cover seems to be rapidly getting fuzzy but there is no streach now on the main. I replaced the jib halyard with XLS Extra. It is more flexible and seems to have a much better cover. Again, there is no apparent streach. I'll use the XLS Extra in the future although it cost a little more than the Stayset-X. These are both on the low end of the cost scale for low streach (non-poly core) materials.