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#1
Main Message Board / Re: Finding the waterline
September 26, 2019, 11:40:04 AM
Thanks Stu
#2
Main Message Board / Re: Finding the waterline
September 24, 2019, 06:04:22 PM
Quote from: Stu Jackson on February 26, 2019, 05:53:06 PM
The exhaust hose on the Mark I boats is 17 feet.

17' from where it comes out of the muffler or whatever it is under the sink in the head? Also is it 1-5/8" id?

TIA
#3
Main Message Board / Re: CNG to Propane
August 17, 2019, 06:43:33 PM
Thanks.

Quote from: KWKloeber on August 17, 2019, 06:35:12 PM
Jim

I've relied on Todd before and he knows his stuff!!
Seaward was bought by Whale and parts are no longer available. I believe that Sure bought out any remaining parts.

Not good news but heed Todd's advice about making it safe especially with the heavy gas.
#4
Main Message Board / Re: CNG to Propane
August 17, 2019, 08:46:40 AM
Thanks Graig that's good to know and pretty much why I posted their e-mail. You never know if you're getting advice, a sales pitch or a combination of the two.

Quote from: Craig Illman on August 17, 2019, 05:25:08 AM
Sure Marine is local to me in Seattle. In the numerous times I've delt with them, I've found them honest and very helpful. I'd really have to trust their advice.

Craig
#5
Main Message Board / Re: CNG to Propane
August 17, 2019, 08:43:46 AM
Yep sigh.



Quote from: scrimshawsc34 on August 17, 2019, 03:19:24 AM
I think there has been a ton of research on this and I agree with your conclusion. If you are going to convert to Propane, you need to gut the cooking system.   Why gut it?   

1. Fuel Source - you need to have a "Gas Bilge" for the leaking propane to escape out of the boat as Propane is heavier than air.
2. Gas Lines - this you may be able to resume, but they will not be long enough, so you'll need to replace.
3. Stove -  Yup..  it will burn it, but not safe

In the Great Lakes I found a place, but if I go cruising, I'll need to get creative.

Michael Principe
S.V 5 O'Clock Somewhere 1986 #63
#6
Main Message Board / Re: CNG to Propane
August 17, 2019, 08:41:43 AM
That's why I'm heading South, "goin' where the weather suits my clothes."  :D

I've found that even a kerosene lamp raises the temp a little.

Quote from: Jim Hardesty on August 17, 2019, 06:53:19 AM
This is off topic.  Excuse me. 
I've read the warning about using the propane stove for heating.  See so many warning stickers I pay less and less attention to them.  Does anyone have a stove top gadget for warming up the salon?  I've heard using flower pots and just putting a kettle on.  Is there anything else that would help to take the chill off?
Jim
#7
Main Message Board / Re: CNG to Propane
August 16, 2019, 08:23:21 PM
Coming from San Diego it's been easy to buy CNG. Now I'm living in Ensenada and getting ready to cruise South from here CNG will no longer be an option.
#8
Main Message Board / CNG to Propane
August 16, 2019, 05:11:33 PM
I know...I should have done this a long time ago, in my defense I like CNG and I'm lazy.

I've been looking through all the posts on the topic since yesterday but they're all pretty old and I can't seem to find a contact for Seaward I did find Sure Marine and I'm not very encouraged about what they told me. (see below)

Do I need to switch out the burners? Or just the hardware for the bottles? Is it actually possible to convert my old stove and have it be "USCG/ABYC compliant?"
Is there someone else I need to talk to? Somehow from my first readings of posts here it didn't seem like it would be a big deal. Now I may just sell my boat!  :cry4` :clown

From Sure Marine Service Inc.

"Hi Jim,

The necessary parts to convert the oven and make it function are almost certainly no longer available.

The issue is the oven thermostat control, which will almost certainly not be compatible with propane.

They no longer manufacture the correct, propane compatible thermostat to convert the stove.
At minimum, all the burner jets would need to be changed, 2 on top, 2 in the oven.

Changing the jets will not make the oven run correctly.

You would also need to re-label the stove for the correct fuel (per ABYC,) but the replacement oven door placard is no longer available.
Assuming you could locate an LPG compatible thermostat, there is still no way to convert the stove and have it be USCG/ABYC compliant.

Once converted, the stove would not meet ABYC A-26.5.12 which states "All (propane) appliances shall have flame failure devices on all burners, and pilot lights, that will prevent gas from flowing to the burner if flame is not present."
There is no practical way to convert the stove to propane and bring it up to the current safety standards which have been in place since the 1980s.

If you want to send me a photo of the oven thermostat (part behind oven knob,) I can tell you if it can probably be made to work with propane, but most likely, it will not work.

If you need the stove to be USCG compliant, you will need to replace it.


Kind regards,

Todd Glenn"

#9
Main Message Board / Re: Deck/Hull joint torque
July 21, 2019, 07:09:27 PM
In the boat they are nuts on bolts.
#10
Main Message Board / Re: Deck/Hull joint torque
July 21, 2019, 02:30:26 PM
 :clap Gracias amigo.
#11
Main Message Board / Re: Deck/Hull joint torque
July 20, 2019, 09:01:17 AM
So I talked to Warren at Catalina and he basically said what Stu said, get them tight like you'd tighten any other nut. Also he didn't really sound like it was an issue I should be too concerned with.
#12
Main Message Board / Re: Deck/Hull joint torque
July 14, 2019, 07:13:23 PM
Yeah, no, but if you ever sail down to Ensenada I'm at Cruiseport I'll buy you a taco.   8)   

Quote from: Noah on July 14, 2019, 04:41:36 PM
And since you now have that stanchion rebedding "thing" down how'bout swinging by San Diego and give mine a go, too. BTW-I also need backing plates added. 8)
#13
Main Message Board / Re: Deck/Hull joint torque
July 14, 2019, 07:08:06 PM
Stu, not at all. I think I will call them though some things you can mess up by unequal tightening I'd hate to cause that seal to leak from not doing it right.


Quote from: Stu Jackson on July 14, 2019, 04:02:55 PM
You really don't need anybody else to tell you anything.  Just tighten it up snug, short of the threshold of pain (for your joints!!!:D) and be done with it.  Really.  The ONLY torque I think is critical are the keel bolts.

Saves a long distance phone call.  Send Ken the $$ you woulda saved.   :D :thumb: :D

PS - added later  Jim, hope I didn't sound harsh.  You're right, I don't EVER recall hearing about this.  Fun to be first?!?  :shock: :clap
#14
Main Message Board / Re: Deck/Hull joint torque
July 14, 2019, 07:02:07 PM
you mean that thing in my pocket that I use to do Facebook? You can talk into that thing? Who'd a thunk. Good idea though really didn't think of it. DOH!


Quote from: KWKloeber on July 14, 2019, 03:58:00 PM
Jim

Why not use the good old phone, call FL, ask for Warren and he'll get an answer if there is one.
#15
Main Message Board / Deck/Hull joint torque
July 14, 2019, 03:42:40 PM
I did try to search this.

Recently while rebedding my stanchions I noticed the nuts and bolts which hold the Deck and Hull together since I was using a 7/16 on the stanchions anyway I put my wrench on one and it wasn't very tight more than finger tight but not by a lot. So I emailed Catalina to see if there was a particular torque they should be at but I never heard back from them.  :cry4` does anyone know about these?

TIA