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Title: M35BC universal motor vs Which one of Kubota motor
Post by: andre on May 10, 2017, 03:27:17 PM
Hello every body I need to change my fresh water pump and I want to know what is the similar kubota motor for my universal m35 bc 1997. Can you help me?
Title: Re: M35BC universal motor vs Which one of Kubota motor
Post by: KWKloeber on May 10, 2017, 04:27:52 PM
 Are you asking about the closed coolant system pump?

Freshwater means different things to different owners whether you're in salt or fresh    Close coolant system means only one thing ;-)
Title: Re: M35BC universal motor vs Which one of Kubota motor
Post by: andre on May 10, 2017, 04:47:42 PM
it is my pump for prestone in french maybe glycol in english. It is not my raw water pump
Title: Re: M35BC universal motor vs Which one of Kubota motor
Post by: KWKloeber on May 10, 2017, 04:50:10 PM
Is what you're asking for is the kubota part number???
French Italian or English doesn't matter ;-)
Title: Re: M35BC universal motor vs Which one of Kubota motor
Post by: andre on May 10, 2017, 05:07:34 PM
I saw somewhere that there is a similar kubota motor of my motor I want to pay less than the dealer universal charge for the same pump, I want to know where starting my research with the model of motor kubota
Title: Re: M35BC universal motor vs Which one of Kubota motor
Post by: KWKloeber on May 10, 2017, 05:30:30 PM
We all want to pay less than  Westerbeke!!!

Si vous êtes déterminé à faire votre propre recherche I will post the Kabota block number a little later when I can get to my laptop.

Or I can hand you the Kabota part number on a platter and save you hours of research.  Your pump your choice.  ;-)

French Italian Farsi or Chinese,  it's all Greek to me. (I'm on my 3rd happy hour)   

Back at you soon Andre.
Title: Re: M35BC universal motor vs Which one of Kubota motor
Post by: andre on May 10, 2017, 07:01:25 PM
I don't understand what you mean exactly by french italian or chinese it's all greek to me. Do you that the pump from Kubota is less good than westerbeke. Excuse my english is not very good
Title: Re: M35BC universal motor vs Which one of Kubota motor
Post by: Noah on May 10, 2017, 07:47:31 PM
Andre- That's Ken's version of "American humor".  I am sure (hopefully)  someone here will provide you with the correct, easy to understand, answer soon.
Title: Re: M35BC universal motor vs Which one of Kubota motor
Post by: KWKloeber on May 10, 2017, 08:47:35 PM
Ok Andre, I got onto my laptop where I have my manuals stored.

S'il vous plaît, excusez-moi pour des erreurs dans ce qui suit (mon français n'est pas si bon.)   

Si vous voulez le rechercher vous-même, le manuel de pièces Kubota pour le moteur M-25XPB se trouve sur le site TechWiki C-34 sous "Manuels". Voir page 24 pour la pompe à liquide de refroidissement. Le M-35BC utilise la même pompe que le moteur M-25XPB.

Le numéro de pièce actuel de Kubota est 16241-73034. Il est disponible chez votre concessionnaire Kubota, ou en ligne sur www.messicks.com, ou peut-être en ligne chez Kumar Brothers. Kumar n'est pas des pièces OEM de Kubota, mais elles sont moins coûteuses et je n'ai PAS entendu parler de problèmes de Kumar.

Si vous avez besoin de plus d'informations, n'hésitez pas à me contacter directement à KWKloeber@aol.com

ken
Title: Re: M35BC universal motor vs Which one of Kubota motor
Post by: KWKloeber on May 10, 2017, 09:04:32 PM
Andre

Le coût de la pompe est d'environ $ 200 USD de Kubota, et à moitié sur le internet de Kumar Brothers.

kk
Title: Re: M35BC universal motor vs Which one of Kubota motor
Post by: KWKloeber on May 11, 2017, 12:10:40 AM
Andre,

Pour clarifier, quand j'ai dit "Manuel Kubota pour le moteur M-25XPB", je voulais dire le manuel de Kubota pour le "moteur cousin" pour le "Universal XPB" qui est un Kubota D-1005.

Un "moteur cousin" pour le M-35B, est le Kubota V1305. J'ai simplement téléchargé ce manuel sur le site Tech Wiki pour vous.

Incidemment, à la page 18 du manuel D-1005, vous verrez un knock-out sur le collecteur d'admission juste sur le côté droit du tube d'admission d'air.  Si vous obtenez le numéro de pièce 16241-05550 de Kubota, il s'insère dans le trou de ce knock-out et vous connectez le tuyau de reniflard du carter directement à là, au lieu de le suspendre par le filtre à air en mousse.

ken
Title: Re: M35BC universal motor vs Which one of Kubota motor
Post by: andre on May 11, 2017, 02:35:14 AM
Thank you very much I appreciate. I will check that. Just for example the cost of the pump at my marina is 800.00 before tax. It's very different. And in the same time I learn my English. Votre francais is very good.
Title: Re: M35BC universal motor vs Which one of Kubota motor
Post by: KWKloeber on May 11, 2017, 12:31:51 PM
Quote from: andre on May 11, 2017, 02:35:14 AM
Thank you very much I appreciate. I will check that. Just for example the cost of the pump at my marina is 800.00 before tax. It's very different. And in the same time I learn my English. Votre francais is very good.



Andre

C'est typique des pièces de marque "Westerbeke / Universal", qui sont simplement remballées par Kubota. Chaque fois que vous pouvez les combiner, allez avec les pièces Kubota.

Un problème survient lorsque Kubota possède deux ou trois numéros de pièce différents en fonction du numéro de série du moteur. Le numéro de série universel est différent du numéro de série OEM Kubota.

Title: Re: M35BC universal motor vs Which one of Kubota motor
Post by: Roc on May 11, 2017, 02:40:12 PM
OK, now in English please so others can grab the part number in the future?
Title: Re: M35BC universal motor vs Which one of Kubota motor
Post by: KWKloeber on May 11, 2017, 02:45:39 PM
Quote from: Roc on May 11, 2017, 02:40:12 PM
OK, now in English please so others can grab the part number in the future?

LOL!  Okay, I'll post it all together in one when I have a few minutes.

k
Title: Re: M35BC universal motor vs Which one of Kubota motor
Post by: andre on May 11, 2017, 03:36:35 PM
Thank you very much Ken for your help. You speak very well in French.
Title: Re: M35BC universal motor vs Which one of Kubota motor
Post by: Ron Hill on May 13, 2017, 09:54:58 AM
andre : The water pump for your M35BC engine is the same as the M25xpBengine.  Kubota D1005 ESO1 used in the F2400 and F2560 "tractors".

Hope this helps 
Title: Re: M35BC universal motor vs Which one of Kubota motor
Post by: andre on May 14, 2017, 05:48:49 AM
thank you Ron
Title: Re: M35BC universal motor vs Which one of Kubota motor
Post by: KWKloeber on May 17, 2017, 12:37:37 AM
Andre

Following up on our last emails, I found on the C36 owner's site that the 2-1/4" impeller pump is Kubota part number 16241-73034 (M35BC owner replaced his failed pump and needed the 2-1/4" model.)

The larger impeller pump  must be the other p/n that you cited to me.  I can PM the member if you have additional questions.

Hope this helps,
Ken
Title: Re: M35BC universal motor vs Which one of Kubota motor
Post by: andre on May 25, 2017, 02:57:35 PM
I have received my pump from Kubota and the number with the 2.25 inch impeller is 1625173032. I have compared with my old pump and it is the same. I don't know why is not the same number of you
Title: Re: M35BC universal motor vs Which one of Kubota motor
Post by: KWKloeber on May 25, 2017, 08:53:30 PM
Quote from: andre on May 25, 2017, 02:57:35 PM
I have received my pump from Kubota and the number with the 2.25 inch impeller is 1625173032. I have compared with my old pump and it is the same. I don't know why is not the same number of you

Andre

i show that as another cross reference for the number below.  It's not at all unusual for a OEm to have many numers for basically the same part/item.  I recently looked up an oil switch and for the same item, General Motors had over 20 different part numbers for the identical part, depending on went car it went on.  I don't know the benefit f that to GM, seems that as long as the aftermarket parts people have the cross reference numme, there's no benefit to having hidden the common part number.

W/ Kubota, it seems that the first part (xxxxx-) is specific to what engine or equipment it is on.  The send half ( -xxxxx) seems to be the part.  So "your" pump may have been on a different engine than the other numbers, but the second half (-73032) is in one of the sequences below for that pump.  (e.g., 73030, replaced by 73031, replaced by 73032, replaced by 73034, etc.)  If on the engine it is from, there wasn't a replacement, then the number could "stop" at 73031, replaced by 73032.

ken