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Title: New Owner of C34 #886
Post by: Ben H. on November 16, 2015, 10:44:48 AM
Hello Everyone.

I recently purchased a Catalina 34 here in CT that had been sitting out of the water for about 5 years. I'm a novice when it comes to sailing, but am quick on the uptake. Physically this boat seems to be well cared for and in sound condition. I was told she ran a sandbar before coming out of the water and had her rudder break away. The prop and shaft were also removed as a precaution. The only other "damage" I can see is a chip by the rudder tube and the "Catalina" smile.  Over winter I'm looking at prepping her as much as I can to get her back in the water this spring. I'd love to hear from everyone what sort of things I should look for, possible projects for now/later, and general recommendations.

I'm going to make a second post regarding the engine, M-25XP, that I'm having trouble starting. (http://c34.org/bbs/index.php/topic,8731.0.html).

Again, I look forward to tapping everyone knowledge.

Thanks, Ben
Title: Re: New Owner of C34 #886
Post by: Stu Jackson on November 16, 2015, 10:50:11 AM
Welcome, Ben and congratulations on your new boat.

We're here to help, fire away.
Title: Re: New Owner of C34 #886
Post by: Ben H. on November 16, 2015, 11:16:38 AM
Here is the link to the engine woes post.   http://c34.org/bbs/index.php/topic,8731.0.html

So far myself and co-owner Chris have
- Given the boat a quick scrubbing to get dirt/green mold off
- Covered boat with frame and HUGE tarp that still leaves it accessible via crawling.
- Attempted to start the motor http://c34.org/bbs/index.php/topic,8731.0.html
- Spot cleaned the inside.

Over the winter I'd like to:
- Go through electrical system to learn/label/neaten up everything
- Go through plumbing system to learn/label/repair/ everything. Thinking of replacing all 26+ year old hoses.
- I see evidence of leaking ports. Would like to replace all seals, but think I'll have to wait for warmer weather now. In CT its averaging mid 40s-50s now.
- Get motor running!
Title: Re: New Owner of C34 #886
Post by: Jon W on November 16, 2015, 07:31:58 PM
Hi Ben, welcome. I bought my 1987 mid April of this year, and what you will find out in a little while is how valuable this owners forum and the helpful and experienced people that participate in it are. What year is your boat? I've done quite a bit to my 87 since getting it. I can clean up my to do list and post here if you think it would help.
Jon W.
Title: Re: New Owner of C34 #886
Post by: BillG on November 17, 2015, 04:46:31 AM
where is your  boat sitting for the winter?
Title: Re: New Owner of C34 #886
Post by: Ben H. on November 19, 2015, 09:20:15 AM
Jon W. - I believe my boat is from 1989. I'd love to see your list if you are willing to share. Thanks!

BiilG - My boat it sitting at a storage yard in CT currently.
Title: Re: New Owner of C34 #886
Post by: Stu Jackson on November 19, 2015, 10:33:34 AM
Quote from: Ben H. on November 19, 2015, 09:20:15 AM
Jon W. - I believe my boat is from 1989.

Ben,

http://www.c34.org/owners-database/owners.html

This database is no longer active, it was from the old website which required input from our "team of highly trained professionals" -- that's the guys who knew how to html back in the olde daze.   :D :D :D
Title: Re: New Owner of C34 #886
Post by: Clay Greene on November 19, 2015, 11:09:27 AM
Ben, our boat was #873 and came off the assembly line in September 1988 as a 1989 model year boat.  Yours would have been fairly shortly after ours.  You can determine the exact month by the hull identification number.  The letter that is fourth from the end is the month the boat was built, the following number is the year and the last two numbers are the model year.  Ours was I889, so I for September (starts with A in January), 8 for year manufactured, and 89 for model year. 
Title: Re: New Owner of C34 #886
Post by: Ben H. on November 19, 2015, 01:10:41 PM
Quote from: Stu Jackson on November 19, 2015, 10:33:34 AM
our "team of highly trained professionals" -- that's the guys who knew how to html back in the olde daze.   :D :D :D

HTML isn't so scary. Just need a < here and a /> there and maybe an a ref='magic' to finish it off.
Title: Re: New Owner of C34 #886
Post by: Ben H. on November 19, 2015, 01:12:44 PM
Quote from: claygr on November 19, 2015, 11:09:27 AM
The letter that is fourth from the end is the month the boat was built, the following number is the year and the last two numbers are the model year.

Just looked on some paper work and see J889. So that would be October 1988, Model year 1989?
Title: Re: New Owner of C34 #886
Post by: Clay Greene on November 19, 2015, 01:19:25 PM
Yes, that's right. 
Title: Re: New Owner of C34 #886
Post by: Jon W on November 20, 2015, 06:37:50 PM
Hi Ben,
A little busy here, so will need another day or so to post the list. It has what's been done and my future plans. Please remember every boat (and owner) is different so please don't take it as "must do's" just information.   Jon W.
Title: Re: New Owner of C34 #886
Post by: Jon W on November 21, 2015, 05:02:59 PM
Hi Ben,
      You will probably look at the list and think what a mess the boat I bought was, but there were only a few things outside the Critical Upgrade list that needed to be done. The list is more a reflection of preparing the boat for how I intend to use it, than what was wrong with it. My plan is to retire in 2 years and cruise the west coast, possibly to Canada, and Mexico. In other words, depending on intended use of the boat, some items really did not have to be done. Please remember every boat is different, and everyones purpose is different.

With all that said -

        Attached is my running list of what's been done, and what I'm planning/thinking of doing. One of the first things I did was make a list of the marine, engine, and rigging surveyors input and combined my thoughts. To keep it somewhat manageable, I broke it into Phases. Phase 1 and 2 are done, and I'm on Phase 3. If the item says DONE, that task is complete. Hope it is helpful.

Jon W.
Title: Re: New Owner of C34 #886
Post by: Stu Jackson on November 22, 2015, 08:01:08 AM
Jon, that is an extremely thorough list, great work.

[for searching:  weblog]
Title: Re: New Owner of C34 #886
Post by: Jon W on November 22, 2015, 09:17:17 AM
Thanks. Without a checklist to create a plan I don't think I would have gotten as much done in the last 5-6 months. I added two items to the attachment in the original post in red text. Small items but was bugging me that I missed them.   Jon W.
Title: Re: New Owner of C34 #886
Post by: Ben H. on November 30, 2015, 06:09:34 AM
Jon W. thank you very much for sharing that list. I've downloaded it and will use it to help build my own check list of tasks.
Title: Re: New Owner of C34 #886
Post by: Ben H. on November 30, 2015, 06:25:31 AM
Progress Notes

Engine Started - CHECK

Next Steps

Engine Maintenance - Checking injectors, change oil (motor/tran) and filters, belt, zincs, other fluids, .... May wait til spring for this
Electrical System "Rebuild" - Previous owner made changes and i'm not sure what is what. Want to learn/fix/improve the system.
Rudder/Prop/Shaft - Boat needs all 3 and accessories. What are your thoughts? Should I make a thread for this?
Sails - Boat has old unknown age sails. Thinking of ordering sails now to get discount for spring delivery. Thoughts? New thread?

Title: Re: New Owner of C34 #886
Post by: KWKloeber ‘84 C-30 #3573 on December 02, 2015, 04:57:06 PM
Quote from: Jon W on November 21, 2015, 05:02:59 PM

        Attached is my running list of what's been done, and what I'm planning/thinking of doing.
Jon W.

Jon,

Amazing list and amazing progress!   :clap :clap :clap

I noticed one in particular.....

Quote
21.   DONE. Replace the burnt connector on the spare shore power cord. Removed from boat.

Your burnt connector is yet another example of the poor twist-lock system!!  Everyone should consider (and do) upgrade to the SmartPlug system and take advantage of the Catalina Association group deal.


Stu- I wonder if this should be added to the "CU"s?  I could write up a segment and reference RC's photos and contributions.(but then again so could a monkey given enough time)  :rolling

aside -  :donno:  are all the forum "CU"s reflected on the TechWiki "CU" section?   

-ken
Title: Re: New Owner of C34 #886
Post by: Jon W on December 02, 2015, 05:42:11 PM
Are the Smart Plugs sold through you for the discount?
Jon W.
Title: Re: New Owner of C34 #886
Post by: KWKloeber ‘84 C-30 #3573 on December 02, 2015, 06:24:35 PM
Jon,

Yes, when I approached SP in 2013 about a group deal, the VP said he wouldn't sell direct - they had to set it up thru a dealer, so they made me one rather than members dealing  with another 3rd party.  I just place the order and its shipped direct from the distributor.

kk 
Title: Re: New Owner of C34 #886
Post by: Stu Jackson on December 02, 2015, 06:27:07 PM
Quote from: KWKloeber on December 02, 2015, 04:57:06 PM
1.   Stu- I wonder if this should be added to the "CU"s?  I could write up a segment and reference RC's photos and contributions.(but then again so could a monkey given enough time)  :rolling

2.   aside -  :donno:  are all the forum "CU"s reflected on the TechWiki "CU" section?   


1.  It might just be easier to provide a link to Maine Sail's sbo writeup.

2.  Yes, there is a reference to the CUs right at the top of the wiki linking back to it, no need to duplicate the text, that's what links are for.   :D
Title: Re: New Owner of C34 #886
Post by: KWKloeber ‘84 C-30 #3573 on December 03, 2015, 08:18:03 AM
Quote from: Stu Jackson on December 02, 2015, 06:27:07 PM

1.  It might just be easier to provide a link to Maine Sail's sbo writeup.

Stu,

It would -- but (I'm tip-toeing a narrow line here) not "filtering" RC's write up, C-34 owners would be directed toward a significantly higher priced purchase as SBO, without the Assn deal.

I guess my primary question was whether the known problems with the twist locks, elevates this to be a "CU" per se?

k
Title: Re: New Owner of C34 #886
Post by: britinusa on December 03, 2015, 05:45:04 PM
FYI, I'm very pleased with the Smart Plug that I installed last week.

The connection is obviously far better than the old twist lock system.

Ken was really helpful, and I took advantage of the assn discount that he offers.

I have already ordered an end for the genny power cord as the old one still has the twist lock on it.

Paul
Title: Re: New Owner of C34 #886
Post by: kh3412 on December 09, 2015, 04:10:58 PM
So who do you contact to order and what is the price for the smartplug kit.
Title: Re: New Owner of C34 #886
Post by: britinusa on December 10, 2015, 03:48:28 AM
Contact Ken. (http://c34.org/bbs/index.php?action=profile;u=3800)
Title: Re: New Owner of C34 #886
Post by: KWKloeber ‘84 C-30 #3573 on December 10, 2015, 07:45:55 AM
Quote from: kh3412 on December 09, 2015, 04:10:58 PM
So who do you contact to order and what is the price for the smartplug

See
http://c34.org/bbs/index.php/topic,7919.msg58867.html#msg58867
Title: Re: New Owner of C34 #886
Post by: KWKloeber ‘84 C-30 #3573 on December 10, 2015, 07:48:27 AM
Quote from: britinusa on December 03, 2015, 05:45:04 PM
FYI, I'm very pleased with the Smart Plug that I installed last week.

The connection is obviously far better than the old twist lock system.

Ken was really helpful, and I took advantage of the assn discount that he offers.

I have already ordered an end for the genny power cord as the old one still has the twist lock on it.

Paul

Paul.....
Locktite?
Title: Re: New Owner of C34 #886
Post by: britinusa on December 10, 2015, 11:45:53 AM
Got a response from the Loctite company but it just pointed me to their spec sheets.

Did not apply loctite.

But do want to go ahead and put the smart plug end on our Generator to boat power plug.

:thumb:

Paul