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General Activities => Main Message Board => Topic started by: Stu Jackson on January 07, 2012, 10:15:33 AM

Title: Wood under mast step - keel step
Post by: Stu Jackson on January 07, 2012, 10:15:33 AM
On another forum I read a respected registrant mention that early C34s had wood in the keel step (up to maybe 1987 from a discussion with Gerry Douglas).

Anybody have any experience with this? 

The older C30s were notorious for rotting keep stubs.
Title: Re: Wood under mast step
Post by: Exodus on January 07, 2012, 05:33:27 PM
I just pulled my mast a couple weeks ago and the step was not made of wood.  Perhaps it is possible that there is wood glassed in beneath the step.  Anybody want to volunteer to drill into the glass to see what is there??
Title: Re: Wood under mast step
Post by: Ron Hill on January 07, 2012, 06:16:35 PM
Guys : I wrote this up in the Mainsheet tech notes many years ago.

There is wood inside the glassed in mast deck step.  According to Gerry Douglas they stopped doing that with production hull #700 (as I recall that #).
Title: Re: Wood under mast step
Post by: Kevin Henderson on January 07, 2012, 09:51:25 PM
Ron.... I am in awe. :thumb:
I am constantly amazed and want to compliment you on your vast amount of knowledge and living history of all things C-34. 
Thank You!   :abd:
Title: Re: Wood under mast step
Post by: Rick Allen on January 10, 2012, 01:40:48 PM
There certainly was wood glassed under my maststep and in the keel trunk. My C34 is sail number 746 from 1988. It delaminated and I had it removed and re-glassed a few years back. Not an easy or cheap process..  You can view some photos here:
http://public.fotki.com/sailorick/sv_painkiller/bilge-de-lamination/ (http://public.fotki.com/sailorick/sv_painkiller/bilge-de-lamination/)
Title: Re: Wood under mast step
Post by: Ron Hill on January 10, 2012, 02:48:41 PM
Rick & Guys : I've got a Catalina drawing from 1996 that shows how to repair the wood in the keel stub.  I'll try to attach it.  Exactly why they put wood in the keel stub or the mast step is beyond me (especially the mast step with all of that compression)??

This is definitely another reason to keep a DRY bilge.   A thought
Title: Re: Wood under mast step
Post by: Rick Allen on January 11, 2012, 11:25:54 AM
Ron, I believe this is the drawing you speak of:

(http://images33.fotki.com/v1137/photos/4/31944/8541848/c34bilgerepair-vi.jpg)
Title: Re: Wood under mast step
Post by: Ron Hill on January 11, 2012, 02:46:52 PM
Rick : That was the drawing I meant to post - thanks for posting it. 
Title: Re: Wood under mast step
Post by: Jon W on March 29, 2015, 10:23:50 AM
Hi Rick,
   Do you still have the pictures of re-glassing the mast step from the 2012 post? I tried the link but it doesn't work. Thanks.
Jon W.
Title: Re: Wood under mast step
Post by: Rick Allen on April 01, 2015, 10:50:12 AM
Jon, here is the bilge repair instructions from Catalina, I'm still looking for the repair pictures.
(http://images14.fotki.com/v437/photos/3/31944/3021947/c34bilgerepair-vi.jpg)
Title: Re: Wood under mast step
Post by: lazybone on April 02, 2015, 03:18:48 AM
Its hard to read some of the writing.

Does it say to add a total of 55 layers of glass?
Title: Re: Wood under mast step
Post by: KWKloeber on April 02, 2015, 06:06:20 AM
Quote from: lazybone on April 02, 2015, 03:18:48 AM
Its hard to read some of the writing.

Does it say to add a total of 55 layers of glass?


Here's my cleaned-up copy of that bilge wood plank fix, and a related one for the smile.
I don't know if you guys have the wooden mast support block as we do, but I added that fix

And pix of my smile fix (on a 30.)  About 50% of the joint was punky when I got into it.  Fun wow.
one also.

Cheers,
Ken

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Title: Re: Wood under mast step
Post by: KWKloeber on April 02, 2015, 06:15:47 AM
Quote from: KWKloeber on April 02, 2015, 06:06:20 AM

Here's my cleaned-up copy of that bilge wood plank fix, and a related one for the smile.
I don't know if you guys have the wooden mast support block as we do, but I added that fix

And pix of my smile fix (on a 30.)  About 50% of the joint was punky when I got into it.  Fun wow.
one also.

Cheers,
Ken

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Ooops.  Sorry can't attach, PDFs are too large to upload thru the forum.   :cry4`
:donno: why the limit is so low, but....

I can email them if you like?


Ken
Title: Re: Wood under mast step
Post by: KWKloeber on April 02, 2015, 06:23:56 AM
Quote from: lazybone on April 02, 2015, 03:18:48 AM
Its hard to read some of the writing.

Does it say to add a total of 55 layers of glass?


6) Laminate (3) layers of 1.5 oz mat and 24 oz roving alternately lapping up onto keel stub sides approx 6"

Does that help?

Ken
Title: Re: Wood under mast step
Post by: KWKloeber on April 02, 2015, 10:49:58 AM
Here's the PDF.  Not sure how to have it  display here (or maybe PDFs will not?)

http://c34.org/wiki/images/a/ae/CTY_Keel_Stub_Repair_Pre-1988_2-1996.pdf

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(I guess a PDF will not display?)

http://c34.org/wiki/images/d/d2/CTY_keel_crack_repair_7-1985_rev.5-1996.pdf

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