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Title: Genoa foot (cheek) blocs
Post by: Fou Du Large on December 17, 2006, 09:05:22 AM
Hello!

Next spring i plan to install foot return blocs for my genoa sheets of my Cat-34 1986.
I'm regading for Harken  cheek blocs No.1548  3 po. sheave diam. Is that ok?

Do you know the part number of Garhauer (standard Catalina) genoa  foot blocs ?

Thank you.
Title: Re: Genoa foot (cheek) blocs
Post by: Ron Hill on December 17, 2006, 10:25:19 AM
Fou : If you are referring to Genoa sheet "truning" blocks (aft and then back to the preliminary winch), you can purchase these ball bearing blocks from Garhauer.   
I have a set.  You'll need to mount them high on the side slanted climbing (starboard side especially) and also cut in a Beckson port on the starboard side to get at the back side nuts.  The port side you can just remove the engine instrument panel to get at the back.  For a backing plate I used/cut 2 pieces of 1/4inch Lex an. 
A few thoughts.
Title: Re: Genoa foot (cheek) blocs
Post by: dave davis on December 17, 2006, 05:00:59 PM
You might have noticed that all the new C34's have, what Garhauer calls this block, a FOOT BLOCK. The CHEEK block is also listed in their catalogue and is smaller and lighter than the foot block. Both blocks use a #40 sheeve. The cheek block is listed as 40-21-SB and is held on by four 1/4-20 bolts. The Foot Block is listed as FB-04-SB and is held on by 5 - 3/8 bolts. I do not have a Harken Cat. but I can almost guaranteed that Garhauer will be much less than Harken. There is a big difference in price for the Garhauer Cheek block at $28.85 each and their Foot block at $104.79. The choice is yours but I would recommend for you to spend the extra bucks and go with the Gar. foot block.  :santa
Good Luck, Dave
Title: Re: Genoa foot (cheek) blocs
Post by: Fou Du Large on December 18, 2006, 04:19:05 AM
Ron

Did you put a shim under the block on starbord side?

Thank you for your recommendation.


Title: Re: Genoa foot (cheek) blocs
Post by: rirvine on December 18, 2006, 09:46:37 AM
You can see Garhauer's product listing and pricing at:

http://garhauermarine.com/
Title: Re: Genoa foot (cheek) blocs
Post by: gerard on December 18, 2006, 01:16:38 PM
I am also planning to install next spring foot return blocs on my genoa sheets of my Cat 34 - 2006. Question: Is there anybody who can sent me some photos from an installed Garhauer set?
Title: Re: Genoa foot (cheek) blocs
Post by: Joe Kern on December 18, 2006, 02:52:29 PM
Quote from: gerard on December 18, 2006, 01:16:38 PM
I am also planning to install next spring foot return blocs on my genoa sheets of my Cat 34 - 2006. Question: Is there anybody who can sent me some photos from an installed Garhauer set?

Gerard - I see you have 2006 - Didn't your boat come with them already on the boat?
Title: Re: Genoa foot (cheek) blocs
Post by: Ron Hill on December 18, 2006, 03:30:42 PM
Guys :  Over the production years I believe that Catalina has made subtle changes to that outside cockpit combing.  That's why a photo may be a hindrance - as you might have Bimini supports and other items in the way?!? 
What you need to do is place that turning block as far aft as possible.   Then take the Genoa sheet line and run it thru the loose block and check to make sure that you have a fair lead to the winch - before drilling those holes!!   The reason that I mention the starboard block is that the sheet line winds around the winch clockwise.  The port side winch will have the sheet line first going around the OUTSIDE of the winch whereas the starboard side the sheet line will go first go around the INSIDE of the winch!!

Fou - Yes, I also used a 1/4" lexan shim to get that "fair lead" on the starboard side to move the block further outboard.

Gerard - I'm surprised that your MKII didn't come with turning blocks!  I do know that the early MKIIs turning blocks were NOT BB.    :cry4`

Always make sure you have a fair lead, as I've learned that everyones C34 is NOT exactly the same!!   :!:
Title: Re: Genoa foot (cheek) blocs
Post by: Stu Jackson on December 18, 2006, 04:05:22 PM
Our 1986 has the foot blocks, mounted, both sides, on teak risers about an inch thick.  I checked, I do not have any photos.  Ron's advice is apt and should be easy to do once you get the blocks.  While only one side may "require" the risers, it doesn't hurt to make them match.
Title: Re: Genoa foot (cheek) blocs
Post by: Ron Hill on December 18, 2006, 06:36:55 PM
If you mount the blocks high on the slanted combing and use clear Lexan on the starboard side, you'll never notice that there isn't extra standoff on the port side.  A thought.   :wink:
Title: Re: Genoa foot (cheek) blocs
Post by: gerard on December 19, 2006, 11:12:37 AM
This is the genoa system I wrote about. Is there anybody who has installed such a system with Gerhauer parts? And if you have installed such a system, could you please sent me some pixs?
(http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/5629/ajk4sko8.jpg)
Title: Re: Genoa foot (cheek) blocs
Post by: Jon Schneider on December 19, 2006, 11:44:47 AM
Ah, this is completely different from a foot or turning block.  This is for the jib-lead, similar to the more complete version that Garhauer sells under the name of the EZ-Glide system.  I installed it last year, and it dramatically changed the way I trim my genny (for the better).  I would definitely go with the EZ Glide system, which includes double blocks on forward end of the track as well as on the lead itself; you will really appreciate the extra purchase.  Also, with the cam cleat on the aft end of the track, you won't have to drill more holes into your deck, and you'll find the positioning exactly right.  Go for it!  You won't regret it.
Title: Re: Genoa foot (cheek) blocs
Post by: gerard on December 19, 2006, 12:37:41 PM
Thanks, Jon can you provide me the systemcode which I have to order? EZ - G ??
Title: Re: Genoa foot (cheek) blocs
Post by: Ted Pounds on December 19, 2006, 01:33:05 PM
 Here's the catlog page:  http://garhauermarine.com/catalog_process.cfm?cid=37
The one you want is:      E-Z Glide Adjustable Genoa Car System
E-Z G-2UB

Price is $302.50  Don't forget the track mounted cam cleats (E-Z Glide Adjustable Genoa Car System
Swivel cam 1-1/4, $96.80 )  if you don't want to mount your own cleats somewhere else.