billhatter
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« on: September 19, 2011, 10:03:18 AM » |
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The solenoid went out on my propane system this past weekend. Searching through West Marine I see that Seaward make a LPG Locker Kit with Solenoid. Since my boat is a 1987 Catalina 34, I'm seriously considering replacing the entire system based on the age. Has anyone used the Seaward Locker Kit? I also saw that Ron Hill had inquired about the length of hose that leads from the locker to the stove. Is it 15 feet or 20feet? Also, is there a better resource other than West Marine?
Bill Hatter
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Bill Hatter
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Ken Juul
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« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2011, 11:04:40 AM » |
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Not sure but perhaps an RV parts store. Could also try the factory.
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Ken & Vicki Juul
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SD Diver
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Boat Name / Hull Number: Ciao Bella
Model Year: 1987, 367
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« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2011, 11:04:53 AM » |
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Bill,
If you get one of the lockers from West Marine let me know if you can get it into the aft lazzert. I too have an 87 and am looking at building my own, as Ron hill did.
Thanks,
Ralph
Ciao Bella
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Ron Hill
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« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2011, 09:20:39 PM » |
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Bill : Look in projects and you'll find how I made a new propane locker for a 10/11 lb bottle - easy to do. Never got a good answer on the length of the propane hose from the locker to the stove on a MK I. Haven't done that yet, but I will and I'll send you the exact length when I do. The people on this web site that have done that task say it's about 15 to 20 ft long. Hard to believe that those master mechanics can't get the length a bit closer!! - guess they had someone else do the work for them and don't really know!!  |
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SD Diver
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« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2011, 11:15:09 AM » |
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Ron,
Buying long is a lot easier to install then buying short. The old, " I've cut it off two times and it's still too short" is a hard lesson.
Ralph
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Meerkata
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« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2011, 04:48:58 PM » |
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Has anyone built a propane locker? I have a friend with a Cat 30 who needs one for a 10 pound bottle. WestMArine is like $400 too much.
Jim-of-Meerkat
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John Langford
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« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2011, 05:58:56 PM » |
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I am not sure buying "long" is even a good second best strategy with propane hose. Coiling up extra hose can lead to a liquid build up in the coils which eventually will impede flow of gas. If you go long and then decide to reduce the length after installation, you have to bring the hose back to the propane shop to have a new end fitting put on. On the MK II it isn't that hard to measure the distance as the hose goes through a PVC pipe that is glassed along the hull. I recommend using a heavy wire to measure the size exactly.
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Cheers
John
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SD Diver
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« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2011, 06:11:36 PM » |
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Jim,
Search for and read Ron Hill's article on building the propane box. Very good read.
Ralph
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Stu Jackson
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« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2011, 06:39:21 PM » |
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It's in Projects, which you can find via the wiki or the earlier sticky topic on "Too Much Information" --- consider the alternative.  http://www.c34.org/projects/projects-propane-storage.html |
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mel low
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« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2011, 11:10:20 PM » |
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Well I am right in the final stages of finishing a change out of CNG to propane. I am leaving for Alaska in May and my 34 had CNG, which is hard to obtain. I did not want to give up access to the rear lazarette. So I decided to build my own 3/4 inch plywood locker. I fiberglassed the outside and coated the inside with resin. I installed the box in the rear lazarette on the starboard side.I am using a 2 1/2 gallon stubby bottle. The locker is a side load with heavy foam gasket. It will be vented out bottom of the box through the transom. I purchased 17 feet of LPG hose.
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Ron Hill
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« Reply #10 on: November 02, 2011, 09:21:09 PM » |
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Mel : You will probably need 2 vents one on the bottom for the propane to "fall out" and one near the top for the air to come in. A thought
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Ted Pounds
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« Reply #11 on: November 03, 2011, 09:54:29 AM » |
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Actually since propane is a gas you only need the bottom vent. Air can go up the vent as the propane goes down (unlike water or some other liquid). For more info on propane locker requirements see http://www.abycinc.org/committees/A-01.pdf |
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Ted Pounds
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SD Diver
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« Reply #12 on: November 03, 2011, 11:25:51 AM » |
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Ted,
Thank you for the posting of the specs on the storage locker.
Ralph
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