2ndwish
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Boat Name / Hull Number: 2nd Wish / 464
Model Year: 1987
Home Port: Long Beach, CA
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« on: April 18, 2011, 12:25:13 AM » |
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After reading the various threads about Oberdorfer leaks and rebuilds, I took a look at the engine. Low an behold, there was some corrosion around the weep holes and evidence on the block that it had been leaking. I decided to see how bad the leak was and ran the engine for 20 minutes under load. The weep hole was dry. We went sailing today and motored for nearly an hour. Checked again after the sail-dry again. Its possible that the pump used to leak and was repaired, but why wouldn't the corrosion have been cleaned? Any ideas? T
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Mike and Joanne Stimmler
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« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2011, 10:41:58 AM » |
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The previous owner probably never got around to it. The pump could have been repaired or replaced. Does the pump look newer or cleaner than the surrounding area? You should also check the oil pan for rust. Keep an eye on it for awhile to make sure it's still not leaking.
Mike
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Mike and Joanne Stimmler Former owner of Calerpitter '89 Tall Rig Fin keel #940 San Diego/Mission Bay mjstimmler@cox.net
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2ndwish
Forum - Petty Officer 3rd Class
 
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Boat Name / Hull Number: 2nd Wish / 464
Model Year: 1987
Home Port: Long Beach, CA
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« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2011, 11:12:59 AM » |
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Thanks Mike. There is a small spot of rust at the pan (1cm). The PO and 1/2 CO tells me the water pump faceplate has leaked in the past. Would that present the same symptoms (ie a little corrosion on the weep holes as well as marks on the engine)?
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Stu Jackson
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« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2011, 01:36:51 PM » |
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It very well could if there was enough water weeping past the faceplate gasket to run into the weep hole.
But really, don't sweat it, Mike was right, that's the only plausible explanation.
Just clean up around the pumps carefully, and also follow ALL the rust/stain streaks, clean them up, and repaint. I used Rustoleum after I did my cleanup up and sanded, haven't gotten around to using the engine color tan paint. I bought a can of Westerbeke paint, but GM Camel (search this board for that and you'll find the paint #) and you should be fine. Only you can tell how deep the rust may be, without pictures and we're simply not there on your boat with you.
If you have any questions about the integrity of the pump, and it seems you've done your homework by running it as you have so it sounds good, then take it out and redo the seals. Wouldn't hurt to learn what's all back there... The wiki has the manuals you need to see the diagrams.
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« Last Edit: April 18, 2011, 02:33:38 PM by Stu Jackson »
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Stu Jackson
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« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2011, 07:42:44 PM » |
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Here's another really good "How To": http://www.pbase.com/mainecruising/raw_water_pumpMaine Sail's website is fantastic and a very good resource for all of us. In addition, he's got his own "Featured Contributor" page on www.catalinaowners.com: http://forums.sbo.sailboatowners.com/forumdisplay.php?f=135Scroll to the bottom to show all threads from the beginning, about 6 pages, so far...
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« Last Edit: April 18, 2011, 07:49:20 PM by Stu Jackson »
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Ron Hill
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« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2011, 09:23:28 PM » |
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2nd : What you need to do is when the engine is running go below and open the starboard engine access door and shine a flashlite on the Oberdoffer and see if it's leaking. You need to do that periodically and then shine the light at the packing gland and see if there's anything unusual going on back there.
A single drop of salt water will /can cause a corrosion spot- ie changing to a new impeller could leave a couple of drips if not dryed off.
After you check the starboard side of the engine you just might want to also look at the port side of the engine thru the head engine access door - and see if all is OK there!!
Much easier than pulling the steps to look for leaks. A few thoughts
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2ndwish
Forum - Petty Officer 3rd Class
 
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Boat Name / Hull Number: 2nd Wish / 464
Model Year: 1987
Home Port: Long Beach, CA
Posts: 78
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« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2011, 02:18:35 AM » |
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Thanks for all of the suggestions. We'll keep an eye on it. It appears to have been the pump faceplate which leaked in the past. T
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Ron Hill
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« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2011, 08:30:31 PM » |
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2nd : The face plate leak is easy to fix with a new "paper thin" gasket !!
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